Hibernation and Auto Shutdown for TNAS

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Re: Hibernation and Auto Shutdown for TNAS

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Gremlin wrote: 15 Oct 2024, 06:20
I agree with @Gremlin, I understand their frustration. I'm increasingly surprised by the number of people who suffer from varying degrees of cognitive difficulties, including alexia.

Their response is a good example of that.
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We will forward this request to the PM team, They will evaluate this requirement.
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Re: Hibernation and Auto Shutdown for TNAS

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TMroy wrote: 15 Oct 2024, 11:01
Thank you very much for your attention

If TM wants to be a major player in the domestic arena, improving these details is essential.
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Re: Hibernation and Auto Shutdown for TNAS

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Completamente de acuerdo con todas las apreciaciones que realiza, todas esas funcionalidades que ahora no implementa TM, redundan, en la seguridad, el ahorro energético y la conservación del equipo. Además influye directa y necesariamente en la libertad, del cliente y usuario de los equipos TM, a fin de utilizar los mismos de la manera que considere mas adecuada y conveniente, al tipo de uso que se le quiera dar.
Considero que no serían unos cambios para nada complicados de implementar. Y se trataría de un importantísimo avance en cuanto a funcionalidad y servicio de los equipos TM. Opino que cualquier usuario, avanzado, amateur, o intermedio, de este tipo de equipos, sabrá valorar de manera muy positiva. Gracias y un Cordial saludo!
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Adding to this subject, i just bought an F8 SSD Plus NAS, and coming from an Asustor NAS, the lack of full hibernation of the system or auto shutdown is a really missing feature for me and a true disappointment.
I only use NAS once in a while, and i would require the NAS to not be awake all time (power consumption, noise even if quiet is not perfectly silent, no need for access all time).
If TerraMaster still consider this as a useless feature, i would unfortunately have to move to another device.
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Can someone tell me which versions of linux actually support hibernation natively? By hibernation I mean 'shutdown after a period of inactivity' while retaining os status. I know how to shutdown after a given period (either within TOS or via cli) but anything else seems slightly vague.
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Gremlin wrote: 15 Oct 2024, 06:20
DekkaR wrote: 14 Oct 2024, 19:53 And worse, when will my data modification work in MariaDB, which could last for days, be completed?
For once I agree with @TM on this one. If you have actions (as one expects on a server) that are indeterminate, why would you even consider hibernating your nas? What about other users who might be needing access when 'You' are not available? If you don't like noise and lights, put it in a closet. Sometimes I despair of the requests people make of TM.
Well, because I am the only user and I want to avoid the boot time that the TOS implies and I compensate for it with a lower electricity consumption. What is not normal is that the enclosure after the standby time is hot due to the disks and the consumption is 45 watts.
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What I have noticed in both Tos5 and Tos6 (even the latest 6.0.500+) is that, if the fan is set in auto mode, it will stop turning but will not always 'return to service' as the nas comes back into use or temperatures rise. Nothing specific about this happening (pretty random) just happening to view the overview or desktop displays and not seeing the fan(s) turn on. Too random to "trust" after a few over-heat experiences. (And the parameters are vague to non-existent.)
If the disks are hot, they are not in hibernation/standby mode, it seems to me.
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Re: Hibernation and Auto Shutdown for TNAS

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Luisete wrote: 23 Oct 2024, 21:11 Completamente de acuerdo con todas las apreciaciones que realiza, todas esas funcionalidades que ahora no implementa TM, redundan, en la seguridad, el ahorro energético y la conservación del equipo. Además influye directa y necesariamente en la libertad, del cliente y usuario de los equipos TM, a fin de utilizar los mismos de la manera que considere mas adecuada y conveniente, al tipo de uso que se le quiera dar.
Considero que no serían unos cambios para nada complicados de implementar. Y se trataría de un importantísimo avance en cuanto a funcionalidad y servicio de los equipos TM. Opino que cualquier usuario, avanzado, amateur, o intermedio, de este tipo de equipos, sabrá valorar de manera muy positiva. Gracias y un Cordial saludo!
Tienes toda la razón del mundo. Creo que son escusas para no modificar algo que en su dia se hizo mal. Lo que no es normal que que el standby en mi caso que hace el TOS, siga manteniendo los discos en estado de semistanby porque pongo la mano en la caja y los discos están calientes y que el consumo sea de 40 Watios en ese modo de standby cuando en funcionamiento normal es de 90 Watios. Ya no puedo devolver el terramaster pero me estoy planteando olvidarme del TOS y emplear otro tipo de software Raid que sea mejor.
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Re: Hibernation and Auto Shutdown for TNAS

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Luisete wrote: 23 Oct 2024, 21:11 Completamente de acuerdo con todas las apreciaciones que realiza, todas esas funcionalidades que ahora no implementa TM, redundan, en la seguridad, el ahorro energético y la conservación del equipo. Además influye directa y necesariamente en la libertad, del cliente y usuario de los equipos TM, a fin de utilizar los mismos de la manera que considere mas adecuada y conveniente, al tipo de uso que se le quiera dar.
Considero que no serían unos cambios para nada complicados de implementar. Y se trataría de un importantísimo avance en cuanto a funcionalidad y servicio de los equipos TM. Opino que cualquier usuario, avanzado, amateur, o intermedio, de este tipo de equipos, sabrá valorar de manera muy positiva. Gracias y un Cordial saludo!
I absolutely concur with your observations! By putting these ideas into practice, users would have more freedom and flexibility while also improving safety, energy efficiency, and equipment longevity. These changes appear to be simple but effective, and I have no doubt that all users, regardless of skill level, will much value them. Excellent idea!
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