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Re: 2.5 Gbps networking question

Posted: 08 Mar 2024, 02:45
by KWguy
{L_BUTTON_AT}Gremlin
Thanks for your thoughts on this, you are likely right, but I do not know enough about networking to act on your information. Do I need to make a change to the interface settings on one or both of my TNAS devices, or is this a setting change on my router? To remind you, here is the connection order: 1Gbps Switch -> LAN #1 F4-423 -> LAN #2 F4-423 -> LAN #2 F4-223 I never took the ip address examples from TM as specific examples (10.10.10.4 & 10.10.10.2). I just took what I already had and made them manual. (my misunderstanding). I have hooked both TNAS up through my 1G switch so I can configure them each bofore I connect them together. On the F4-423 I changed LAN 2 to 10.10.10.4 On the F4-223 I changed LAN 2 to 10.10.10.2 Disconected the F4-223 from the switch and connected LAN 2 to LAN 2 of F4-224 and it still did not work. Here is a screenshot of F4-423 LAN 2 settings: https://imgur.com/KHxZqte Am I on the right track? What else do I need to change?

Re: 2.5 Gbps networking question

Posted: 08 Mar 2024, 02:48
by KWguy
I have no idea why this forum is not putting in the line spacings I make. It looks good when I write it out, but once it is posted its all crammed together. I'll try logging out and back in again for my next posting.

Re: 2.5 Gbps networking question

Posted: 08 Mar 2024, 07:15
by Gremlin
The formatting is a quirk of the forum use of the @_name. It has been mentioned several times, but no-one at TM seems to care to fix it. (like the inability to edit/delete a post). I'll have a think about the rest.

Re: 2.5 Gbps networking question

Posted: 08 Mar 2024, 08:43
by crisisacting
{L_BUTTON_AT}KWguy
It's because of that @ ; if you preview your post with it, it'll drop the spacing, but as soon as you remove it, the preview will display correctly. You're better off quoting others if formatting is important you.

Re: 2.5 Gbps networking question

Posted: 08 Mar 2024, 10:51
by KWguy
Gremlin wrote: 08 Mar 2024, 01:14 OK, maybe I have it. Your LAN 1 and LAN 2 are still both on the same (192.168.7.nnn) network segment.
I am interested in your translation/perspective of this response I received today from TM support. I don't totally understand what they are telling me to do or what the problem is.
We believe that it is necessary to describe the usage method again:
Please connect TNAS A and set LAN 2 to static IP 10.10.10.4 in the control panel
Please connect TNAS B and set LAN 2 to static IP 10.10.10.2 in the control panel
Connect to LAN 2 using a network cable
If you don't see LAN 2 lit up on the control panel network interface, they are actually connected.
You can mount the TNAS B folder to A through the following link in Control Panel>Remote Folder>SMB Folder: //10.10.10.2/folder
Please note that TNAS does not have a soft routing function. If TNAS B only connects to TNAS A, you can only access TNAS B through TNAS A, and cannot access TNAS B through PC browsers or resource managers.
Thank you.

Re: 2.5 Gbps networking question

Posted: 08 Mar 2024, 18:32
by Gremlin
What TMsupport are saying is that the TOS system has no way to apply static routes, to satisfy your requirements, that can be set OR MAINTAINED over a reboot/etc. [It is important to note that it can be done in Linux as a generality.] There was a previous discussion along these lines but related to WLAN connections. This resulted in a change to the OS that provided the "set as default gateway" options. However, you do NOT want to set the 10.10.10.* ports as a default gateway because, in the TOS manner, ALL your communications would try to foillow that route, but TOS lacks the capability to route through those interfaces to the other network segment.

In my rather simplistic manner:
TNAS_ROUTES.png
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At the same time, because the default route on each nas is via 192.168.7.* interface, all traffic for 10.10.10.* would try to go via the default route, but not find a recipient.

TMsupport suggestion is that you use the REMOTE FOLDER mechanism which is built in. This is akin to mapping a network drive in windows. Hence a remote folder would appear to be a local folder and could be written to simply (I use the term loosley :o ) and you could do this using the 10.10.10.nnn segment.

For what it is worth I have never found Remote Folder to be that reliable (or speedy) and have not pursued any systematic attempts to get it working. But, I was using it in Windows/SMB. It may be better in Linux/Linux where you could use NFS for example.

Re: 2.5 Gbps networking question

Posted: 08 Mar 2024, 20:42
by KWguy
@Gremlin

Thank you for your insight and explanation on this matter.

I have to admit, the way the two LAN ports work on the back of the TNAS is not the functionality I was expecting.

I have taken your advice from earlier and ordered a 2.5G switch.

Re: 2.5 Gbps networking question

Posted: 09 Mar 2024, 03:38
by KWguy
I have hooked up the 2.5G switch to my F4-223 & F4-423 and I am very happy now to see 2.5G connection speed between them.
Screenshot F4-423 2.5G.png

I had really expected not to have to buy this switch since both TNAS had dual 2.5G LAN connections.

Re: 2.5 Gbps networking question

Posted: 09 Mar 2024, 06:08
by Gremlin
Agree, a bit of a shame about the way it turned out. However, on the bright side you now have 4 x 2.5GBe channels and, as you learn more, you can look towards channel bonding for 5GBe overall bandwidth :mrgreen: